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Ezra Pound EZRA POUND
The Art of Poetry No. 5
Interviewed by Donald Hall
Issue 28, Summer-Fall 1962
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INTERVIEWER
Where do ignorance and innocence end and the chicanery begin?

POUND
There is natural ignorance and there is artificial ignorance. I should say at the present moment the artificial ignorance is about eighty-five percent.

INTERVIEWER
What kind of action can you hope to take?

POUND
The only chance for victory over the brainwash is the right of every man to have his ideas judged one at a time. You never get clarity as long as you have these package words, as long as a word is used by twenty-five people in twenty-five different ways. That seems to me to be the first fight if there is going to be any intellect left. . . . It is doubtful whether the individual soul is going to be allowed to survive at all. Now you get a Buddhist movement with everything except Confucius taken into it. An Indian Circe of negation and dissolution.

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