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The New York Observer<\/em> has an excellent new interview with Robert Crumb<\/a>, whose response to the Charlie Hebdo<\/em> attack appeared in Lib\u00e9ration<\/em> this weekend. Crumb has lived in France for a quarter of a century\u2014in typical fashion, he was moved to respond not by any sort of ethical imperative but because he worried what people would say about him if he stayed quiet: \u201cWhere\u2019s Crumb? Why doesn\u2019t he come forward? What the hell\u2019s the matter with him?\u201d And, as he makes clear in the interview, his aim was not to be controversial, but personal:<\/p>\n

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Lib\u00e9ration<\/em> called me and said, \u201cCrumb, can you do a cartoon for us? About what you think about this, you know, you are a major cartoonist, and you live in France.\u201d So I thought about it. I spent a lot of time thinking about it. I\u2019m doing the dishes, or whatever,\u00a0I was thinking, \u201cWhat should I do for that cartoon \u2026\u2009\u201d I had a lot of ideas. Other people come up with these, you know, clever cartoons that comment on it, like \u2026 This one guy did a cartoon showing a bloody dead body laying there, and a radical Muslim standing over him with a Kalashnikov, saying, \u201cHe drew first!\u201d Stuff like that. That\u2019s good, that\u2019s clever, you know, I like that. But, me? I gotta like, you know, when I do something, it has to be more personal. I said, first: \u201cI don\u2019t have the courage to make an insulting cartoon of Muhammed.\u201d<\/p>\n

Then I thought, \u201cOK, I\u2019m the Cowardly Cartoonist \u2026 As a Cowardly Cartoonist, I can\u2019t make some glib comment like that, you know? I have to, like, make fun of myself.\u00a0 So instead of drawing the face of Muhammed [laughs], I drew the ass of Muhammed.\u00a0 [Laughs.] But then I had myself saying, in small lettering, \u201cActually, this is the ass of my friend of Mohamid\u00a0Bakshi, who\u2019s a film director in Los Angeles, California.\u201d\u00a0So if they come at me, I\u2019m gonna say, \u201cNo, look, it\u2019s not Muhammed the Prophet, it\u2019s this guy, Mohamid\u00a0Bakshi.\u201d So, you know.<\/p>\n

[\u2026] So, then Aline [Crumb\u2019s wife] had this idea for another cartoon, which we also sent to Lib\u00e9ration<\/em>, a collaboration, that\u2019s showing her looking at the drawing saying, \u201cOh, my God, they\u2019re going to come after us! This is terrible \u2026 I want to live to see my grandchildren!\u201d And then she has me saying, \u201cWell, it\u2019s not that bad. And, besides, they\u2019ve killed enough cartoonists, maybe they\u2019ve gotten it out of their system.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

You can read the whole interview here<\/a>. (Mohamid Bakshi, by the way, is a pointed reference to Ralph Bakshi, a director and animator with whom Crumb has feuded for some forty years<\/a> over the rights to Crumb\u2019s iconic Fritz the Cat character.)<\/p>\n

Crumb also gave the first interview in our Art of Comics series<\/a> in 2010, in which he remarks on\u00a0the reputation of cartoonists and comic-book artists, who in the not-so-distant past were not regarded as artists at all: <\/p>\n

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The earlier generations that drew comics didn\u2019t see themselves as artistes, you know. They were cigar-chomping newspaper men. A lot of them hung out at the newspaper offices, or even worked there. They were part of that world more than they were artists. They didn\u2019t care about what happened to the original art \u2026<\/p>\n

The comic industry had a kind of sleaze about it. The guys who ran it were not well-educated or refined individuals. Comics were somewhat disreputable; they were the lowest of the low in those days. Even other cartoonists, like The New Yorker<\/em> cartoonists, really looked down on comic books: newspaper-strip artists considered comic books contemptible. The pay was really low. In those days, artists were embarrassed to admit that they worked in the comics industry.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Crumb\u2019s work has seen its share of controversy, too, despite its more personal nature. In the late sixties, he began to draw his sex fantasies and \u201cfoist them on the public,\u201d offending the countercultural readership that had come to adore him for LSD-inspired drawings like \u201cKeep on Truckin\u2019<\/a>\u2009\u201d:<\/p>\n

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The people who had loved my work before that, some of them were shocked and alienated by it\u2014especially the women, of course. I lost all the women. I\u2019m not antifeminist. I like strong, independent women, like the matriarchs of Genesis\u2014they ordered the men around. The sex-fantasy thing was a whole other side of myself, and when that started coming out, I could no longer be America\u2019s best-loved hippie cartoonist. Also the racial stuff: the racist images that I used. That also shut a lot of people off about my work. The feminists despised me. I had a couple of defenders among them whose defense of my work was: He\u2019s just being totally honest about the male mentality. He\u2019s revealing the thoughts that most men are walking around harboring about women all the time. I have to agree with that. I just revealed myself.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

For more of Crumb\u2019s distinctive brand of … \u201cself-revelation,\u201d check out his self-portraits<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Dan Piepenbring is the web editor of <\/em>The Paris Review.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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