{"id":8086,"date":"2010-11-23T14:44:22","date_gmt":"2010-11-23T19:44:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/?p=8086"},"modified":"2013-01-09T11:58:32","modified_gmt":"2013-01-09T16:58:32","slug":"a-week-in-culture-dan-nadel-publisher-part-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/2010\/11\/23\/a-week-in-culture-dan-nadel-publisher-part-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"A Week in Culture: Dan Nadel, Publisher, Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/dan_headshot.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/dan_headshot.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"dan_headshot\" width=\"250\" height=\"278\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-8124\" \/><\/a><em>This is the second installment of Nadel\u2019s culture diary. Click <a href=\"\/blog\/2010\/11\/23\/a-week-in-culture-dan-nadel-publisher\/\">here<\/a> to read part 1.<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<h3>DAY THREE<\/h3>\n<p>I realize this journal is meant to be cultural, but I swear, a ton of my daily doings are more like the \u201cbusiness\u201d of culture. Or like being the janitor of the business. Or something. That\u2019s what I did for most of the day until I went to Penn Station to pick up Brian and Christopher. A couple sandwiches later, we were en route to a bookstore in Williamsburg, where the guys did a stock signing. This is when authors sign a stack of books so customers will, hopefully, buy them faster. <\/p>\n<p>Then it was dinner with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.garypanter.com\/site\/\">Gary Panter<\/a>, his wife, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.helenesilverman.net\/\">Helene Silverman<\/a> (designer of many of my books), and their daughter, Olive. The two dudes love Gary as a spiritual north star of sorts, and Gary has, after thirty-five years, finally found artistic progeny he can be proud of. It\u2019s a lovefest. <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/jack_kirby_wallpaper_fond_d_ecran-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" class=\"alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-8172\" \/>We always look at stuff together. Piles of stuff. Today\u2019s piles consisted of books and ephemera by <a href=\"http:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/\">Jack Kirby<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mikekelley.com\/\">Mike Kelley<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.willy-fleckhaus.com\/\">Willy Fleckhaus<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2009\/07\/23\/arts\/design\/23edelmann.html\">Heinz Edelmann<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Irwin_Hasen\">Irwin Hasen<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/whitney.org\/www\/2006biennial\/artists.php?artist=Brauntuch_Troy\">Troy Brauntuch<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jean_Giraud\">Moebius<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Stray thought: The problem (or, flipped, the pleasure) of being involved with a funky little subculture like comic books is that you have to deal with a level of absurdity so high that it\u2019s like the gods are constantly fucking with you just for kicks. In other words, ninety percent of the \u201cserious\u201d books on the topic have introductions by TV stars or are filled with absurd claims of greatness. Rarely are comics left alone to be a medium unto itself.\t<\/p>\n<h3>DAY FOUR<\/h3>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/clowes-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-8174\" \/>I really admire good publicists. This week, oddly, I\u2019m just a pale imitation of one, but it\u2019s hard to both hustle these books and the authors and also, y\u2019know, think about them, too. Or, uh, think about anything else at all. <\/p>\n<p>Morning finds the guys asleep on my living-room floor. They\u2019re both kinda tall, so they take up an absurd amount of space in the room. Over coffee and tea we have a friendly nerdfest in the morning discussing something Dan Clowes recently said to the effect of reconciling himself to the reality of comics history. Which is to say, understanding that there are few thoroughly \u201cgreat\u201d works or artists to be found, as in film or literature. There aren\u2019t many Jim Thompsons or Philip Dicks to \u201crediscover\u201d and tout as transcending their genres. Instead, we pick through the bins for a great storytelling device or wonky approach to drawing, or some freakishly good art-text combo by a hack, picking our pleasures and fascinations within a single comic book or even just an eight-page story. <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/crumb_selfportrait-150x150.gif\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" class=\"alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-8176\" \/>You have to understand that for most of its history, the medium has existed in pretty rough commercial conditions (division of labor between writer and artist; unscrupulous publishers; no institutional support, et cetera) and has allowed fascinating work to emerge despite itself. We talk about it because forward-thinking cartoonists like these guys are hard-pressed to find antecedents past Clowes, Chester Brown, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/interviews\/6017\/the-art-of-comics-no-1-r-crumb\">Crumb<\/a>, so they have to make their own history and their own unique path forward. And, also, I think, at least for me, I have to reckon with the real situation of a medium to which I\u2019ve dedicated a good chunk of my professional life (self-promotion alert: I\u2019ve written two books on the subject: <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Art-Out-Time-Visionaries-1900-1969\/dp\/0810958384\">Art Out of Time: Unknown Comics Visionaries 1900\u20131969<\/a><\/em>, and <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Art-Time-Comic-Adventures-1940-1980\/dp\/0810988240\">Art in Time: Unknown Comic Book Adventures<\/a><\/em>, both for Abrams). <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/strand1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-8179\" \/>Speaking of choosing forbearers, I packed Christopher off to go see Panter for the afternoon while Brian was interviewed for a magazine at my place. Then we went off to DAP (my bookstore distributor) to film a little conversation about the books and look at yet more tomes (Chris Burden, Paul McCarthy, Jack Smith\u2014more art-life combo guys), before heading over to The Strand for the main event. <\/p>\n<p>I was, I\u2019ll admit, hugely relieved when the second-floor event space began filling up, and then finally overflowed, with people. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pictureboxinc.com\/products\/428-if-n-oof\">These<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pictureboxinc.com\/products\/431-powr-mastrs-3\">books<\/a> were both years in the making, and it\u2019s so important to me that they find audiences beyond their underground origins. I wanted a crowd. I got one, and the publisher, publicist, and editor parts of me are all, for once, simultaneously happy. <\/p>\n<h3>DAY FIVE<\/h3>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/building_photo_today.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-8181\" \/>And now for something completely different\u2014more or less. Brian and Christopher hopped in a cab to JFK to wing their way for the Western chunk of their (mini) book tour, and I got to \u2026 well, I have no idea what I did all day, though it must have been busy enough to be blurry. The end of day was memorable, as I tripped up to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.societyillustrators.org\/\">Society of Illustrators<\/a>, which lives in its own carriage house on the Upper East Side. It\u2019s a grand old house for what was once a men\u2019s club founded in 1901, and through which most of the great illustrators and cartoonists of the early to mid-twentieth century passed: still-revered artists like Maxfield Parrish and Norman Rockwell, and also long-gone names like James Montgomery Flagg and Charles Dana Gibson. There are wonderful paintings for magazines, books, and advertisements from an era when illustration was both \u201crealist\u201d and a popular way for the culture to interpret itself in print. It\u2019s a neat place, filled with history. <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/DSBD-Cover.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-8189\" \/>But I really went to see a discussion about <em>National Lampoon<\/em> in honor of the publication of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Drunk-Stoned-Brilliant-Dead-National\/dp\/0810988488\">Drunk Stoned Brilliant Dead: The Writers and Artists Who Made the National Lampoon Insanely Great<\/a><\/em>, a new visual book on the magazine by one of its signature artists, Rick Meyerowitz. Present was Meyerowitz himself, who gave a wry and informative slideshow, and three of the <em>Lampoon<\/em>\u2019s very best cartoonists, Sam Gross, Ed Subitzky, and Stan Mack. Meyerowitz\u2019s book is something of a two-pronged rescue mission: First to republish artists he feels have been unjustly consigned to obscurity, such as Subitzky (the creator of very funny, minimalist comic-strip psychodramas\u2014yes, I know that\u2019s seems like an oxymoron, but it works, trust me), as well as the late Charles Rodriques (he of the gnarled ink line and beautifully composed gag-cartoon splatter), and, second, if unstated, is to restore some appropriate amount (not too appropriate, given the irreverence of the subject itself) of dignity to the National Lampoon, which is now a brand name so debased that you pretty much have to start a conversation about it with, \u201cNo, not that \u2018National Lampoon\u2019\u2026 well, sort of, but, um, it was this great magazine once\u2026 No, really.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/lampoon_rodrigues1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" class=\"alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-8185\" \/>Before all the shitty movies and bad Web sites and such, it was a place for sophisticated and pretty extreme counterculture to live. The first issue was released in 1970, and it enjoyed a stellar run for about half a decade, indirectly or directly leading the original <em>SNL<\/em>, <em>Animal House<\/em>, and other high (very high, apparently) areas of late 1970s comedy. It came from a duo of Harvard (from whence much of our TV satire still comes) boys, Doug Kenney and Henry Beard, and was anchored in a sense of rage against nearly everything. The articles were often long and thorough exercises in trenchant satire by guys like George W. S. Trow and Michael O\u2019Donoghue, and the artwork was executed by pros seeking refuge from the strictures of the mainstream but not so interested in going underground either. <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/gross_s-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-8187\" \/>So you get the infamous Sam Gross suite of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marksverylarge.com\/\">tampon cartoons<\/a> next to O\u2019Donoghue\u2019s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.marksverylarge.com\/people\/mod.html\">The Vietnamese Baby Book<\/a><\/em>, next to Shary Fleniken\u2019s sexy, inquisitive comic strip, \u201cTrots and Bonnie,\u201d next to Kenney\u2019s \u201cChe Guevara\u2019s Bolivian Diaries.\u201d It\u2019s easy to enumerate all the virtues, but really the stuff is just fucking funny. Not funny in collegiate <em>Onion<\/em> way, or in a winking <em>Late Night<\/em> way, but deeply funny because it recognizes absurdity and gives it the finger. It\u2019s funny because it doesn\u2019t see any contradiction between high-minded satire and piss jokes. It\u2019s a ton of different intellectual and artistic cultures comingling under the umbrella of satire. And it worked pretty damn well. As a hippy might say, \u201call is one\u201d there. In person and on the page, Meyerowitz is funny and acerbic, and thankfully not nostalgic, which is in keeping with the magazine itself. He writes as a survivor, too, since the brilliant anger and smarts that drove a lot of these guys also consumed them; like the rest of the Boomer counterculture, the <em>Lampoon<\/em> left behind the bodies of some its best. Anyhow, it\u2019s a hell of a thing. After the talk, these four wise and funny Jewish men sat at a table, and a dutiful fan, I got my book signed and then headed back to Brooklyn. <\/p>\n<p>I guess my week is over. Now I can get back to not remembering. <\/p>\n<p><em>Dan Nadel is the proprietor of the Grammy-winning publishing house <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pictureboxinc.com\">PictureBox<\/a> and the author of <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Art-Out-Time-Visionaries-1900-1969\/dp\/0810958384\">Art Out of Time: Unknown Comic Visionaries, 1900\u20131969<\/a><em> and <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Art-Time-Comic-Adventures-1940-1980\/dp\/0810988240\">Art in Time: Unknown Comic Book Adventures, 1940\u20131980 <\/a><em>(both Abrams). <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is the second installment of Nadel\u2019s culture diary. Click here to read part 1. 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