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Photograph by Lee Friedlander. From a portfolio<\/a> in issue no. 169.<\/p><\/div>\n

Each week, <\/em>The Paris Review unlocks<\/a> stories, poems, and interviews from our archive for our readers. This week, we\u2019ve unlocked Robert Caro\u2019s Art of Biography<\/a> interview, along with Matthew Baker\u2019s short story \u201cWhy Visit America,<\/a>\u201d from the archive.<\/em><\/p>\n

At a town hall meeting, the residents of Plainsfield, Texas, the fictional town featured in Matthew Baker\u2019s story \u201cWhy Visit America<\/a>,\u201d vote unanimously to secede from the United States. They call their new nation \u201cAmerica.\u201d
\n<\/p>\n

\u201cWe were fed up with our country,\u201d writes Baker in issue no. 230 of the Review<\/em>. \u201cThe executives were busy making donations that funded the campaigns of the politicians, the politicians were busy passing laws that protected the interests of the executives, and pretty much nothing else seemed to be getting done. We were antigovernment, we were anticorporate, but mostly we were normal people who couldn\u2019t afford to buy an election and had come to understand that our votes didn\u2019t mean shit.\u201d<\/p>\n

Several of us at the Review<\/em> returned to Baker\u2019s story after last week\u2019s midterm elections yielded once-unthinkable results, including in Texas, where Democrats won their first Senate seat since 1988, their first governorship since 1995, and control over the state House for the first time in more than two decades.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe live in a democracy, so ultimately, even despite a Robert Moses, a lot of political power comes from our votes,\u201d says Robert Caro in his Art of Biography<\/a> interview, published in issue no. 216 of the Review<\/em>. \u201cThe more we understand about the realities of the political process, the better informed our votes will be. And then, presumably, in some very diffuse, very inchoate way, the better our country will be.\u201d<\/p>\n

This week, to celebrate, we\u2019ve unlocked Caro\u2019s interview<\/a> and Baker\u2019s \u201cWhy Visit America<\/a>\u201d from the archive.<\/p>\n

INTERVIEW
\n<\/small>The Art of Biography No. 5<\/strong><\/span><\/a>
\nRobert Caro<\/em><\/p>\n

\n

CARO<\/p>\n

I thought, There\u2019s one guy who\u2019s with Lyndon Johnson most of the day, and it\u2019s not his campaign manager, it\u2019s his chauffeur! Because in the Texas Hill Country, a lot of anything is driving\u2014that\u2019s ninety percent of the time. His chauffeur was a guy named Carroll Keach. He lived in some place outside Corpus Christi, and it was hard to get to. It was, like, a 180-mile drive or something. But I kept going back to him.<\/p>\n

He wasn\u2019t a loquacious Texan, he was a laconic Texan. I would ask, What was Johnson doing between campaign stops? And he would say something like, Oh, he was just sitting there in the backseat. I just had to keep asking him questions. I mean, you\u2019re driving, Carroll, and Lyndon Johnson is in the backseat? What was he doing in the backseat? Finally, he told me that Johnson often would be talking to himself. So I\u2019d call and say, Carroll, when you said he was talking to himself, what was he saying? Finally, Carroll told me, It was like he was having discussions with himself about whether he had had a successful day, and if he had made a good impression on voters or not. So I\u2019d say, What do you mean by that? How do you know that\u2019s what he was talking about?<\/p>\n

From issue no. 216 (Spring 2016)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

PROSE
\n<\/small>Why Visit America<\/strong><\/span><\/a>
\nMatthew Baker<\/em><\/p>\n

\n

There wasn\u2019t anything special about us. We were just an average town. Porch swings, wading pools, split rail fences, pump jacks bobbing for oil on the horizon. Meetings at town hall were well attended, sure, but we weren\u2019t some hotbed of insurgents. We didn\u2019t subscribe to any one brand of politics. We couldn\u2019t even be plotted onto your basic left\/right binary. Our town had everything: pro-lifers who supported gay marriage, pro-choicers who opposed gay marriage, climate change deniers who owned solar panels, universal health care campaigners who preferred private insurance, creationists with degrees in biology and geology, loyal conservatives, staunch liberals, moderates, radicals, and ornery retirees whose only real issue was guns. And yet that winter we found ourselves united by a common sentiment.<\/p>\n

From issue no. 230 (Fall 2019)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Sign up for the\u00a0Redux<\/a> newsletter to receive these pieces in your inbox every Sunday morning.<\/em><\/p>\n

Hazel Byers is the <\/em>Review\u2019s engagement editor.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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