{"id":171708,"date":"2025-09-19T10:00:56","date_gmt":"2025-09-19T14:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/?p=171708"},"modified":"2025-09-18T15:53:02","modified_gmt":"2025-09-18T19:53:02","slug":"fall-books-on-cesare-pavese-leucothean-dialogues","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/2025\/09\/19\/fall-books-on-cesare-pavese-leucothean-dialogues\/","title":{"rendered":"Fall Books: On Cesare Pavese\u2019s <em>The Leucothea Dialogues<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_171711\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-171711\" class=\"size-full wp-image-171711\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/1024px-centrale-montemartini-08.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"783\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/1024px-centrale-montemartini-08.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/1024px-centrale-montemartini-08-300x229.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/1024px-centrale-montemartini-08-768x587.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-171711\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Centrale Montemartini. Photograph by Briner2306, via <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Centrale_Montemartini_08.jpg\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>. Licensed under <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/4.0\">CC BY-SA 4.0<\/a>.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Cesare Pavese referred to his <em>Dialoghi con Leuc\u00f2 <\/em>(<em>The<\/em> <em>Leucothea Dialogues<\/em>) as \u201ca conversation between divinity and humanity.\u201d In the twenty-seven dialogues, written between 1945 and 1947, figures from ancient Greek mythology discuss things like desire, fate, language, memory, nature, and death. The speakers, many of whom have been extracted from the narratives in which they serve as tragic heroes or gods, exchange words in a space that might be nowhere or anywhere. They reflect on their own existences and dilemmas, debating, interrogating, or confiding in one another. What is it to be Orpheus, Prometheus, Oedipus, Sappho, Endymion, Hermes, or Ixion? What is it to be in love, to be cursed, to be lost, to lose one\u2019s love, to remember, to smile? And what is it to be mortal, to be subject to death, or to be immortal, to lack a death of one\u2019s own? (The author\u2019s suicide, three years after the publication of the <em>Dialogues<\/em>, gives many of these questions an autobiographical resonance, and has made the book, which he was carrying at the time of his death, into a mythical object.)<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The discussions in <em>The<\/em> <em>Leucothea Dialogues <\/em>are as wide-ranging as mythology itself\u2014that \u201chothouse of symbols,\u201d as Pavese writes in his introduction. In one dialogue, two nameless gods admire the symbolic capacity of human beings: \u201cThose people knew too many things. With the simplest name, they could tell the story of a cloud, the forest, the fates. We barely know what they certainly saw. They had neither the time nor the inclination to get lost in dreams. They saw terrible, unbelievable things and weren\u2019t at all shocked. They knew what it was.\u201d Elsewhere, Mnemosyne, the goddess of memory, speaks to Hesiod of a similar capacity:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Haven\u2019t you ever wondered why a given moment, just like so many other moments past, would grant you a flash of happiness, make you happy like a god? You were looking at the olive tree, the same olive tree on the same trail you\u2019ve walked every day for years, and then one day your exasperation lifts, you caress that old trunk with your eyes, almost as if you were looking at a long-lost friend who utters the very word your heart\u2019s been waiting for. Maybe another time it\u2019s the glance of someone walking past. Or the rain that doesn\u2019t let up for days. The shattering call of a bird. Or a cloud you\u2019ve seen before. Time stops for a moment and the most ordinary thing seizes your heart as if there were no before or after. Haven\u2019t you ever wondered why?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For Pavese, every mythological symbol calls up something of the vastness of human experience. Greek mythology is immediate, conventional, and familiar (at least to Europeans in the twentieth century), and it\u2019s this \u201cstirring up [of] the familiar\u201d that produces the most disquieting effects. Pavese\u2019s path, he writes, is to \u201cstare fearlessly and steadily at the same object.\u201d After a while, \u201cthat same object will seem like something we\u2019ve never seen before.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Archipelago Books\u2019s publication of a translation by Minna Zallmann Proctor is an occasion to stare anew. Prior to this edition, the English text had been available in a 1965 translation by the classicists William Arrowsmith and D. S. Carne-Ross. The midcentury prose tends to be stiffer and sparser. Many of Proctor\u2019s phrases, on the other hand, have an informality that\u2019s closer to contemporary speech without being overly naturalistic, although at times they can feel overworked.<\/p>\n<p>In her introduction, Proctor cites Pavese\u2019s friend Italo Calvino, who wrote of the \u201cliving multiplicity\u201d of the classic. The classic is \u201ca book that has never finished saying what it has to say,\u201d by which Calvino wanted to connote the orality of ancient storytelling traditions and of dialogic form, where things are kept open and unsettled and abundant. Yet classics must, in an important and more challenging sense, be dead. Classics like the <em>Dialogues<\/em> are texts populated by statue-like beings, characters that might as well be made of white, smooth marble, with vacant eyes. They speak in a stilted, cryptic, wooden manner. This is precisely why brief instants of animation, in the hands of Pavese and Proctor, are miraculous. The characters in these dialogues are both in and out of time, both mobile and static. That dialectic and its uncanniness clearly fascinated Pavese, whose smiling gods are trapped within a continuous present. These gods watch as mortals, who have a relation to death and to the past that immortals do not, and who have encounters and make meanings, however fleeting and intimate. Without these there would be no living, no history, no beauty. \u201cEverything they touch becomes time,\u201d says Demeter. \u201cIt becomes an action. Waiting and hoping. For them, even dying is something.\u201d Myth is as untimely as ever.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><main class=\"article-body blog-body\"><em>Alec Mapes-Frances is a writer and designer.<\/em><\/main><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cClassics are texts populated by statue-like beings, characters that might as well be made of white, smooth marble, with vacant eyes.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2582,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[68386],"tags":[20059,67827],"class_list":["post-171708","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-reviews-review","tag-cesare-pavese","tag-featured"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.4 (Yoast SEO v25.4) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Fall Books: On Cesare 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