{"id":169517,"date":"2025-01-06T10:00:31","date_gmt":"2025-01-06T15:00:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/?p=169517"},"modified":"2025-09-22T11:41:39","modified_gmt":"2025-09-22T15:41:39","slug":"making-of-a-poem-hua-xi-on-toilet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/2025\/01\/06\/making-of-a-poem-hua-xi-on-toilet\/","title":{"rendered":"Making of a Poem: Hua Xi on \u201cToilet\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-169519\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/screenshot-2024-12-21-at-190637-1024x682.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/screenshot-2024-12-21-at-190637-1024x682.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/screenshot-2024-12-21-at-190637-300x200.png 300w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/screenshot-2024-12-21-at-190637-768x512.png 768w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/screenshot-2024-12-21-at-190637-1536x1023.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/screenshot-2024-12-21-at-190637-2048x1364.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>For our series Making of a Poem, we\u2019re asking poets to dissect the poems they\u2019ve contributed to our pages. Hua Xi\u2019s poem \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/poetry\/8360\/toilet-hua-xi\">Toilet<\/a>\u201d appears in the new Winter issue of<\/em> <em>the<\/em> Review, <em>no. 250<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>How did this poem start for you? Was it with an image, an idea, a phrase, or something else?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>While I was writing this poem, I was going back and forth from the U.S. to China to take care of a family member. There was a lot of \u201cgoing\u201d in my life. I was thinking a lot about things that would be \u201cgone\u201d soon.<\/p>\n<p>I think the word <em>go<\/em> has a lot of depth. It means to go somewhere and it also means to use the bathroom. People will say \u201cI need to go\u201d to excuse themselves politely in a social setting. There\u2019s a feeling of freedom associated with the term that\u2019s somewhat illusory, since the verb by itself, lacking an object, does not actually \u201cgo\u201d anywhere at all.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Were you thinking of any other poems or works of art while you were writing?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I used to read a lot on the toilet as a child, so the toilet is very much associated with literature for me. While I was writing, I thought of the first pages of <em>To Live<\/em> by Yu Hua, which has a scene where a man is trying to shit into a manure vat and his legs are frail and shaking. I\u2019ve actually only ever read the first few pages of the book, but that image stayed with me. Later on, when I was editing \u201cToilet,\u201d I remembered a passage in an essay by Tanizaki Jun\u2019ichir\u014d, where he talks about the beauty of Japanese toilets. That helped me realize that the peacefulness of a toilet setting must have been experienced by a lot of people over time, not just me, and could be considered a communal feeling. The toilet is a nice place to read because, I think, it mimics the private solace that a book offers; it\u2019s like a personal cubicle where each person can be alone with their own imagination.<\/p>\n<p>I was also writing \u201cToilet\u201d alongside other poems about different household objects, because I\u2019m working on a manuscript made up entirely of \u201cobject poems.\u201d I had to think about how a toilet poem should be different from a table poem or a chair poem, for example, and those differences clarified the poem for me. I decided that a toilet poem should feel a little elegant and clean but at the same time gross.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-169521\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-750x1024.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"682\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-750x1024.png 750w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-220x300.png 220w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-768x1048.png 768w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-1126x1536.png 1126w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image.png 1454w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Did you show your drafts to other writers or friends? If so, what did they say?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I did. A friend put a Post-it note with the last line of the poem above her toilet, which really made me laugh. I used to tell her to think of me when she peed. Later on, I started texting friends, \u201cLet\u2019s pee together soon\u201d or \u201cPee well\u201d as a joking way of saying \u201cI miss you.\u201d Another friend of mine put a \u201cReserved\u201d seat placard on my toilet when she visited my house. That was very important to me as well, and I keep it there. There\u2019s something of those friendships in the poem, which I think gives it its sense of humor.<\/p>\n<p>But this is also a sad poem. There\u2019s a lot of secrecy and privacy in the act of \u00a0peeing. There\u2019s a sense of shame and of the relationship to the body, which is a carrier of all this familial and historical trauma. \u00a0I had to find a new relationship to beauty,\u00a0was\u00a0what I felt about poetry then. When I\u2019m going through a hard time, there\u2019s sort of a refrain in my head that repeats\u2014something along the lines of, I want to live a beautiful life but I can\u2019t help but notice there is something fundamentally disgusting about it all.<\/p>\n<p>Recently, I started taking photos on 35mm of public bathrooms in both China and the U.S. I think these images eventually feed into my writing. Below are a couple taken in Nanjing. I like how you can see the seasons in them\u2014some of these were taken near the end of summer, so you can still see flowers blooming, or that the sun is really bright outside.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-169520\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/ed2a33ed-45c8-4948-a74f-d68e73894cbf-1-105-c-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/ed2a33ed-45c8-4948-a74f-d68e73894cbf-1-105-c-1024x683.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/ed2a33ed-45c8-4948-a74f-d68e73894cbf-1-105-c-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/ed2a33ed-45c8-4948-a74f-d68e73894cbf-1-105-c-768x512.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/ed2a33ed-45c8-4948-a74f-d68e73894cbf-1-105-c.jpeg 1086w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-169522\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/4189ad05-6619-4d79-b473-b1a8d7222cd5-1024x679.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"679\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/4189ad05-6619-4d79-b473-b1a8d7222cd5-1024x679.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/4189ad05-6619-4d79-b473-b1a8d7222cd5-300x199.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/4189ad05-6619-4d79-b473-b1a8d7222cd5-768x509.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/4189ad05-6619-4d79-b473-b1a8d7222cd5-1536x1018.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/4189ad05-6619-4d79-b473-b1a8d7222cd5-2048x1358.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-169524\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/eb9302e8-71d9-40b9-9fd8-553c6ebf7756-1024x679.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"679\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/eb9302e8-71d9-40b9-9fd8-553c6ebf7756-1024x679.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/eb9302e8-71d9-40b9-9fd8-553c6ebf7756-300x199.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/eb9302e8-71d9-40b9-9fd8-553c6ebf7756-768x509.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/eb9302e8-71d9-40b9-9fd8-553c6ebf7756-1536x1018.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/eb9302e8-71d9-40b9-9fd8-553c6ebf7756-2048x1358.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Hua Xi\u2019s poems have appeared in<\/em> The Nation, The New Republic,\u00a0<em>and elsewhere. She is a Stegner Fellow at Stanford.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cI want to live a beautiful life but I can\u2019t help but notice there is something fundamentally disgusting about it all.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2551,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[68811],"tags":[24555,67827,68812],"class_list":["post-169517","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-making-of-a-poem","tag-about-poetry","tag-featured","tag-issue-250"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.4 (Yoast SEO v25.4) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Making of a Poem: Hua Xi on \u201cToilet\u201d by Hua Xi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"January 6, 2025 \u2013 \u201cI want to live a beautiful life but I 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