{"id":164644,"date":"2023-06-16T10:25:23","date_gmt":"2023-06-16T14:25:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/?p=164644"},"modified":"2023-06-16T20:16:15","modified_gmt":"2023-06-17T00:16:15","slug":"head-studies-a-conversation-with-jameson-green","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/2023\/06\/16\/head-studies-a-conversation-with-jameson-green\/","title":{"rendered":"Head Studies: A Conversation with Jameson Green"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_164677\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/green-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-164677\" class=\"wp-image-164677 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/green-scaled-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/green-scaled-1.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/green-scaled-1-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-164677\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">In Jameson Green&#8217;s studio. Photograph by Na Kim.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Earlier this year, <\/span><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">the <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Review <\/span><em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">c<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>omm<\/em>issioned the artist Jameson Green to paint a series of writers\u2019 portraits for our new Summer issue\u2014an idea Green came up with after looking through our archives and being particularly intrigued by a <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/art-photography\/2716\/picassos-women-picasso\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">portfolio of Picasso\u2019s drawings published in 1987<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. What he gave us is a delightful collection of what he calls \u201chead studies,\u201d renderings of famous writers from our archive\u2014some recognizable, some less so\u2014that capture, loosely, something of each subject\u2019s essence. And, like much of Green\u2019s other work, <\/span><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Writers <\/span><em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">borrows from various art historical styles\u2014you\u2019ll find, for instance, a Picasso-esque Percival Everett (or is it Edgar Allan Poe?) and Shirley Hazzard in the style of Vincent Van Gogh. Over the phone, we talked about his childhood obsession with cartoons and about the special attention portraits require, and I tried to guess who was who.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">INTERVIEWER<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Do you consider yourself a portraitist?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">GREEN<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I don&#8217;t paint portraits regularly. But when I was learning to paint, I studied artists like Alice Neel and John Singer Sargent closely. They\u2019re very different stylistically, but there&#8217;s a relationship in terms of their sensitivity to the humanity of the sitter. Those are people I call genuine portrait painters\u2014people like them and Diego Vel\u00e1zquez. The overall essence of the people he paints feels real. You need to have a special kind of attention to that essence to be a great portrait painter. I can get it on some occasions, but not always.\u00a0<\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">INTERVIEWER<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Have you ever painted someone you know well?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">GREEN<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Not in a portrait sense. I think a portrait is based on a singular sitting. I have painted my wife on multiple occasions where she has served as a character or has inspired one. So many of the figures in my paintings are theatrical, both in their presentation and their function. They&#8217;re more like actors on a stage than they are unique individuals. I&#8217;m more interested in the people in my head than I am in the people in my life, when it comes to making something.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">INTERVIEWER<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So how about the writers you painted for the portfolio for the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Review<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">? Are all of them real? I\u2019ve been trying to do some guessing. Is that Edgar Allan Poe, with a raven on his shoulder?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">GREEN<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I don\u2019t really remember. While I was working, I flipped through old books and old issues of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Paris Review<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">,<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">and looked at images of different writers.<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sometimes someone would strike me, and I\u2019d think, Oh, they could be fun to paint. Even then, I didn&#8217;t really use the writers\u2019 photographs. That\u2019s why I called them \u201chead studies\u201d and not portraits. A portrait requires some level of delicacy in terms of intention. You serve the sitter\u2014to a degree, at least. You are playing with their likeness, but in a lot of ways it&#8217;s sensitive to the person involved. In this case, I was serving the paintings.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_164658\" style=\"width: 678px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-164658\" class=\"wp-image-164658 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2071-668x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"668\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2071-668x1024.jpg 668w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2071-196x300.jpg 196w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2071-768x1178.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2071-1002x1536.jpg 1002w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2071-1336x2048.jpg 1336w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2071-scaled.jpg 1669w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-164658\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photograph by Na Kim.<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">INTERVIEWER<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Can you tell me a little bit about the styles of the head studies?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">GREEN<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I was thinking a lot about the paint application in Picasso\u2019s late paintings. He was using house paint and very, very fluid oil paint applied quickly. I was trying to understand how to work with that level of thinness. Normally my brushstrokes are meatier and more evident. This time, I was using a very thin application of really wet paint. It was a wet-on-wet process, bringing down a thin tone that was already rich and solvent, and then bringing in a limited number of colors to build on the form. I was allowing myself to paint over things, to move them out of the way. I\u2019ve kept up this process, even after finishing the series for the<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Review<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Before making these portraits, I typically used charcoal to draw a preliminary sketch, and then I would paint in response to it, on a dry surface. Now, I\u2019m doing everything on a wet surface, which means I have to move at a particular pace to react while it&#8217;s still wet.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">INTERVIEWER<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How long did it take to make these?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">GREEN<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I would say it typically took me only about an hour to make one. Once, I did seven in one day. In the end, I painted close to thirty portraits. But some of them were completely not of writers at all. I would think, Okay, I like how I did this one\u2014I&#8217;m going to do another one and I&#8217;m not going to act like it&#8217;s a person at all, it&#8217;s just going to become my own thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">INTERVIEWER<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Do you remember the first things you were interested in drawing?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">GREEN<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I drew my own cartoons. I would make up characters based on my classmates when I was younger. At school, I put my own comics out in the classroom for people to read. I drew everything, all the time. I drew on scrap pieces of paper and often got in trouble for it\u2014my dad complained that he couldn\u2019t put anything down around me, because I&#8217;d start scribbling on the corners of his mail, on important receipts. But my mother preferred that to me drawing on the walls in my house.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_164659\" style=\"width: 778px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-164659\" class=\"wp-image-164659 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2074-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2074-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2074-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2074-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2074-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2074-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-164659\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photograph by Na Kim.<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">INTERVIEWER<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How did you develop your style? Who were some of your influences?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">GREEN<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When I was first in high school, I didn&#8217;t know much about artists. I knew about Jacob Lawrence, because my aunt had a few prints of his work, and I was interested in older illustrators\u2014 people like Norman Rockwell, J. C. Leyendecker, Maxfield Parrish. I looked at these illustrators as being at the top of the mountain of technical control.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Then I got my hands on a book of Picasso\u2019s work from one of my friends, who said, &#8220;Look at what he was doing at our age.&#8221; I was always really competitive, so naturally I thought, Well, he can\u2019t do better than me\u2014I have to figure this out. That started my deep dive into different visual languages. I began paying attention to the haptics of drawing and trying to really understand the nuances of how a line can make you feel. I explored different styles and approaches because I wanted to be able to have those tools in my back pocket. Personally, I don\u2019t care about getting too close to another artist\u2019s wheelhouse. I\u2019m from the school of Picasso, where if you like something and you respond to it, you steal it. I had this musical analogy in my head\u2014I had been taught, You have to learn the scales so that if you ever come to a moment of improv, you can act without thinking.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">INTERVIEWER<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Do you listen to music when you&#8217;re working?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">GREEN<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I usually have a handful of songs for each painting that I&#8217;ll listen to on repeat. When I was working on the portfolio for the<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Review<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">,<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">because I was exploring different paint styles, those choices were all based on rhythm.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My family is very musical\u2014my mom was a music teacher, and my brother is a composer and a violin instructor. My younger sister just finished up at Yale, where she was part of an a cappella group. I, on the other hand, was cool with mostly just listening to music. But having that background has affected how I see colors and responded to imagery. Images, to me, always had a sound. When I make a painting now, it\u2019s like the image gets shaped through a sound. It\u2019s like I can listen to music coming into my head, and the color and form and composition start to animate themselves right before I put them on the canvas.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_164657\" style=\"width: 778px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-164657\" class=\"wp-image-164657 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2068-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2068-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2068-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2068-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2068-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2068-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-164657\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photograph by Na Kim.<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">INTERVIEWER<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How many paintbrushes do you have?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">GREEN<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I am not the cleanest person. I&#8217;ve seen artists who are very organized with their brushes, and take very good care of them, as they should. I don&#8217;t. My brushes are often left in some solvent, and they become pretty crappy pretty fast. I have quite a few of them, maybe thirty\u2014though compared to other artists whose studios I\u2019ve visited, that\u2019s not very many. But the thing is, you get all these brushes and you end up using only ten of them.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_164655\" style=\"width: 778px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-164655\" class=\"wp-image-164655 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2076-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2076-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2076-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2076-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2076-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/img-2076-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-164655\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photograph by Na Kim.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><br style=\"font-weight: 400;\" \/><br style=\"font-weight: 400;\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Camille Jacobson is <\/em>The Paris Review<em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2019<\/span><\/em><em>s engagement editor. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Jameson Green is represented by Derek Eller Gallery.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;I\u2019m from the school of Picasso, where if you like something and you respond to it, you steal 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