{"id":16430,"date":"2011-06-02T08:10:16","date_gmt":"2011-06-02T12:10:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/?p=16430"},"modified":"2011-06-03T12:32:30","modified_gmt":"2011-06-03T16:32:30","slug":"making-art","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/2011\/06\/02\/making-art\/","title":{"rendered":"Making Art"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_16439\" style=\"width: 584px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-16439\" class=\"size-full wp-image-16439\" title=\"Sheila Levrant de Bretteville in 1973.\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/womenatrevolution.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"574\" height=\"385\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/womenatrevolution.jpg 574w, https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/womenatrevolution-300x201.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 62.5em) 67vw, 100vw\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-16439\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sheila Levrant de Bretteville, who founded the Feminist Studio Workshop, with Judy Chicago and Arlene Raven. Here they are in de Bretteville\u2019s house in 1973.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Toward the end of <em>!Women Art Revolution<\/em>, the performance artist Janine Antoni, who was born in 1964, recalls a moment when her professor, Mira Schor, asks if she\u2019s heard of the work of Ana Mendieta, Hannah Wilke, and Carolee Schneeman. Antoni hadn\u2019t, and she went to the library to learn more. She found nothing, so Schor brought Antoni clippings and catalogues she had saved at home. The moment was profound. \u201cI looked at this work,\u201d Antoni said, \u201cAnd I thought, \u2018I\u2019m making the work of the seventies.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/womenartrevolution.com\/index.php\">!Woman Art Revolution<\/a><\/em>, which plays for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.movietickets.com\/pre_purchase.asp?house_id=9598&amp;movie_id=113696\">just this week at IFC<\/a>, is a documentary by Lynn Hershman Leeson. The film weaves together <a href=\"http:\/\/rawwar.org\/\">decades of interviews<\/a> with female artists, which Hershman Leeson began recording in 1966 in her Berkeley living room, and she continued recording through the next four decades.<\/p>\n<p>There are over four hundred hours of tape, and it took Hershman Leeson three and a half months to watch it all\u2014once. It is incredible. Nancy Spero, who died in 2009, shares a humiliating appointment with Leo Castelli: \u201cIvan Karp saw me. I was wearing high heel boots at the time. I was really kind of tall. Ivan is small. \u2026 He had me put [my tablet] on the floor so every time I turned the page, it felt I was genuflecting to him. And then he said, \u2018What\u2019d you bring these to me for?\u2019\u201d Here\u2019s the late art historian Arlene Raven: \u201cI stopped doing the dishes, making the three meals a day, the laundry, and the house cleaning and so on. The process of personal liberation for me resulted in the break up of my marriage.\u201d The Guerrilla Girls appear: \u201cDo women have to be naked to get into the Met. Museum?\u201d\u00a0Marcia Tucker, the founding director of the New Museum, talks about how she was hired as the first female curator at the Whitney, but at $2,000 less than her colleague James Monte: \u201cSo I went into see my director and I said, \u2018Listen this is what\u2019s happening and you\u2019ve got to change it.\u2019 And he said, \u2018Oh well, the budget, the budget, the budget.\u2019 And I said, \u2018<em>The New York Times<\/em>, <em>The New York Post<\/em>, <em>The Daily News<\/em>.\u2019 So it got changed!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"574\" height=\"460\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3zSA9Rm2PZA\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Born in Cleveland, Ohio, Hershman Leeson was raised Orthodox Jewish. A photograph of her from high school makes an appearance in the film. I mistook her black gown for formal wear, but when I met her, she corrected me. \u201cNo, I used to go out like that,\u201d she said. What triggered the transformation? \u201cWell,\u201d she said simply, \u201cNobody dressed like that in Berkeley.\u201d She was a graduate student there, studying art, when she decided to pick up a camera. \u201cI thought filmmaking was silly,\u201d she said. \u201cAnd nobody thought it was going to be a film, either. They trusted me. I think if I was a real filmmaker, or if they thought I was, they would have been be more reserved.\u201d I nod, recalling an interview with Judy Chicago in a public bathroom.<\/p>\n<p>With grant money, Hershman Leeson hired three film editors to turn footage into a narrative. \u201cOne guy,\u201d she said, \u201cHad done a twelve hour thing on Martin Luther King and I thought, \u2018Well, he\u2019ll know.\u2019 But he couldn\u2019t do it either. 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As I waited for her to answer, I wondered: Would any of us today have done the same?\u00a0\u201cWell most of the artists I know can\u2019t do anything else,\u201d she said. \u201cThey don\u2019t have the skills to function in society.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"574\" height=\"460\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/D6AK9TI3-LU\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Toward the end of !Women Art Revolution, the performance artist Janine Antoni, who was born in 1964, recalls a moment when her professor, Mira Schor, asks if she\u2019s heard of the work of Ana Mendieta, Hannah Wilke, and Carolee Schneeman. Antoni hadn\u2019t, and she went to the library to learn more. 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