{"id":157134,"date":"2022-02-15T11:30:22","date_gmt":"2022-02-15T16:30:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/?p=157134"},"modified":"2022-02-18T17:58:06","modified_gmt":"2022-02-18T22:58:06","slug":"redux-couples-at-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theparisreview.org\/blog\/2022\/02\/15\/redux-couples-at-work\/","title":{"rendered":"Redux: Couples at Work"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Every week, the editors of\u00a0<\/em>The Paris Review<em>\u00a0lift the paywall on a selection of interviews, stories, poems, and more from the magazine\u2019s archive. You can have these unlocked pieces delivered straight to your inbox every Sunday by\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/eepurl.com\/dkY3AH\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">signing up for the Redux newsletter<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u=b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde&amp;id=4ec858002c&amp;e=befe0faba8\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ci6.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/hnppm1WYf41HqavJsUv9zkD0EZC83zn01b2ET78MSkMi4yLWPv32NYnQwd8y9m2dwvqPcm7qoWxL6XPc0IOzjbEXUGJ7steDlfxC4ZdfSfN1P7Mw9smmhZqApyhE7tklR8o2aYrWyHzha9BVvfxgETf8fRSHGQ=s0-d-e1-ft#https:\/\/mcusercontent.com\/b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde\/images\/a37cfe61-75f5-503a-a6fc-b73444e86b95.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Working at his place in the afternoon, and other notes from the archive on writing and romance.<\/p>\n<p>If you enjoy these free interviews, and the portfolio, why not <a href=\"https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u=b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde&amp;id=9e23ac7a1a&amp;e=d2c458ccfa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3Db6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde%26id%3D9e23ac7a1a%26e%3Dd2c458ccfa&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1644356793625000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2NO56GmDei_1-PEKEgSrW9\">subscribe<\/a>\u00a0to\u00a0<em>The Paris Review<\/em>? You\u2019ll\u00a0get four new issues of the quarterly delivered straight to your door.<\/p>\n<p><em>Interview<\/em><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u=b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde&amp;id=6eb8d2703e&amp;e=befe0faba8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3Db6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde%26id%3D6eb8d2703e%26e%3Dbefe0faba8&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1645027625961000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2vA4z-2u_Vsh05F43lj56Y\">Jane and Michael Stern, The Art of Nonfiction No. 8<\/a><br \/>\n<em>Issue no. 215 (Winter 2015)<\/em><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">INTERVIEWER<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">When you started writing about road food, did you think it was of a piece with the folkways movement that was going on then?<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">MICHAEL STERN<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">If we didn\u2019t at the start, we very quickly did. The year after\u00a0<em>Roadfood<\/em>\u00a0was published, we published\u00a0<em>Amazing America<\/em>. And in\u00a0<em>Amazing America<\/em>\u00a0there are lots of folk-art environments and stuff like that. I think when we absolutely started, when\u00a0<em>Roadfood<\/em>\u00a0was called\u00a0<em>Truck Stoppin\u2019<\/em>, we weren\u2019t thinking that it had anything to do with pop culture or folk art, but as soon as we got on the road and started finding guys like Howard Finster and that guy in Wisconsin\u2014<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">JANE STERN<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">\u2014the guy who collected\u2014<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">JANE AND MICHAEL STERN<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">\u2014the oil rags\u2014<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">MICHAEL STERN<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">\u2014not only did we very quickly realize that that was our passion, but I think it really helped us, in some way, to get a perspective on the food we were writing about. It wasn\u2019t just truck-stop food. It was food that was a cultural phenomenon as well.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><!--more--><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">INTERVIEWER<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">And that led to\u00a0<em>Roadfood<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">JANE STERN<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Well, in doing that, we were eating in all these road-food places, which didn\u2019t have a name then. There wasn\u2019t the concept of \u201croad food\u201d\u2014there were just these little mom-and-pop caf\u00e9s, and we kept a little notebook of these places. So after the trucker book came out, and did very well, there came the usual publisher question of what was next. And I said, I think we should do a book called\u00a0<em>Truck Stoppin\u2019<\/em>, and I remember the editor said, What\u2019s that? And I said, Places truckers eat. So we got a contract to do that. Then our grand idea was to review every restaurant in America, which seemed like a really easy thing to do, considering neither of us had ever been anywhere. Michael had been to Chicago, and I had been to New Haven! We just opened a Rand McNally map, and said, Piece of cake. Three years later, we were still on the road finding these places. We were so sloppy. The main thing is that we \u00adwanted to be together.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u=b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde&amp;id=63fb7c3876&amp;e=befe0faba8\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ci3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/PDpTsnqFE5_RvUtn6AfljJtz44OrIH6fmSMdwRvgASY09VFPzDdQfTTiMj_35f-KazaVxcJSaRT-O7fupTkGBL3GoEDZUQ_eYBN6nKB4yObXulQL9dj6YbedLokl1Kq9F7r13queap3nVI7BTLTtucg4Pgb6uA=s0-d-e1-ft#https:\/\/mcusercontent.com\/b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde\/images\/6b5cf559-aa95-c748-9195-313e6b6b3cfd.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em>Interview<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u=b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde&amp;id=407938d506&amp;e=befe0faba8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3Db6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde%26id%3D407938d506%26e%3Dbefe0faba8&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1645027625962000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3zWI6HJRhq9_qWrx5G8pKm\">Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky, The Art of Translation No. 4<\/a><br \/>\n<em>Issue no. 213 (Summer 2015)<\/em><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">INTERVIEWER<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Richard, you once wrote that rumors of your ignorance of Russian are somewhat exaggerated. What is the actual state of your Russian?<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">PEVEAR<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">I can\u2019t really speak Russian. But I can hear it, and I understand quite a lot. I look at the text all the time as I translate. I don\u2019t just use Larissa\u2019s translated manuscript. She even sometimes gets very angry. She says, Where did you get that? You must have looked in the dictionary!<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">VOLOKHONSKY<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Richard has something better than the knowledge of Russian. He has intuition and literary style.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">INTERVIEWER<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">When your first draft goes to Richard, what does it look like? Is it close to what it might become?<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">VOLOKHONSKY<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">You mean, how bad is it? How bad is it, Richard? Tell me.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">PEVEAR<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">She makes it as bad as possible so that I have something to do.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u=b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde&amp;id=c5265c1cff&amp;e=befe0faba8\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ci5.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/hBTCqblSSCgzcLpdDpDJY__GowkBaVd9mUHZq5Wk7E2SNpJ2iobXro-YckHGW36lyOhM9YamOxq2XgGC8gPiis_EiRO3VwznLKbcmA7OFWNTrvPWgUUN1qQszLGKdS-nSc88KodekuOdn42sr_Wpy3Kn497xcg=s0-d-e1-ft#https:\/\/mcusercontent.com\/b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde\/images\/9a320f33-7b67-cb32-bc01-8d5d9696b845.png\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em>Interview<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u=b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde&amp;id=9df3a4e295&amp;e=befe0faba8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3Db6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde%26id%3D9df3a4e295%26e%3Dbefe0faba8&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1645027625962000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0gAUFMDoej67vaMytzPGvB\">Simone de Beauvoir, The Art of Fiction No. 35<\/a><br \/>\n<em>Issue no. 34 (Spring\u2013Summer 1965)<\/em><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">INTERVIEWER<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">People say that you have great self-discipline and that you never let a day go by without working. At what time do you start?<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">DE BEAUVOIR<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">I\u2019m always in a hurry to get going, though in general I dislike starting the day. I first have tea and then, at about ten o\u2019clock, I get under way and work until one. Then I see my friends and after that, at five o\u2019clock, I go back to work and continue until nine. I have no difficulty in picking up the thread in the afternoon. When you leave, I\u2019ll read the paper or perhaps go shopping. Most often it\u2019s a pleasure to work.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">INTERVIEWER<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">When do you see Sartre?<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">DE BEAUVOIR<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Every evening and often at lunchtime. I generally work at his place in the afternoon.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">INTERVIEWER<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Doesn\u2019t it bother you to go from one apartment to another?<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">DE BEAUVOIR<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">No. Since I don\u2019t write scholarly books, I take all my papers with me and it works out very well.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u=b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde&amp;id=2150639180&amp;e=befe0faba8\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ci5.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/E-6-hUvN0ClVX2jQfDLvEQEkKU-m0KXw-2Vk8FVTu6Z1Gw1QknU_bFze708bQdVJZxS5E72cthnsbz8iWYMkNO9-OO9wCDVE2nbv_QkeclXrlhv1n-SQz2RwqsLQktiDwTfeM5pX9TfrWQSZEBp6E6cqd4wEjQ=s0-d-e1-ft#https:\/\/mcusercontent.com\/b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde\/images\/36e23cb2-5293-eae1-2e98-48b6d40bc83e.png\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em>Art<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u=b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde&amp;id=7dc8a6a8c5&amp;e=befe0faba8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3Db6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde%26id%3D7dc8a6a8c5%26e%3Dbefe0faba8&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1645027625962000&amp;usg=AOvVaw09GdqFGdwIWSgqQipmw9Zb\">Couples<\/a><br \/>\nBy Eric Fischl<br \/>\n<em>Issue no. 86 (Winter 1982)<\/em><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">If you enjoyed the above, don\u2019t forget to\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u=b6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde&amp;id=65a5d1b219&amp;e=befe0faba8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/theparisreview.us17.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3Db6c161007733f0d4c084f3fde%26id%3D65a5d1b219%26e%3Dbefe0faba8&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1645027625962000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0AKqjI6WBJ0RBS5B5CZhMf\">subscribe<\/a>! In\u00a0addition to four print issues per year, you\u2019ll also receive complete digital access to our sixty-eight years\u2019 worth of archives.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week, we\u2019ve lowered the paywall on interviews with Jane and Michael Stern, Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky, and Simone de Beauvoir.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[31006],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-157134","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-redux"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.4 (Yoast SEO v25.4) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Redux: Couples at Work by The Paris Review<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"February 15, 2022 \u2013 This week, we\u2019ve 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