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Claudia Rankine, 2016.<\/p><\/div>\n

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The two Writers at Work interviews from our Winter 2016 issue<\/a> are now online, in full, free to read for subscribers and nonsubscribers alike. In the\u00a0Art of Poetry No. 102<\/a>, Claudia Rankine\u00a0<\/b>talks to\u00a0David L. Ulin <\/strong>about\u00a0finding the lyric in nontraditional spaces, reaching as wide an American audience as possible, and having a breakthrough with her collection Citizen<\/em>:<\/p>\n

It felt like the first time I could actively be involved in a public discussion about race, in a discussion that, to me, is essential to our well-being as a country. It wasn\u2019t simply about publicizing the book, it was about having a conversation. It was also an opportunity for me to learn what others really thought and felt. The responses were various. One man said he was moved by a reading I gave and wanted to do something to help me. I said I personally had a privileged life, which I do, and that I didn\u2019t need his help. What I needed was for him\u2014this was a white gentleman\u2014to understand the urgency of the situation for\u00a0him<\/em>\u00a0and to help himself in an America that was so racially divided. It wasn\u2019t about him coming from his own position of privilege\u2014of white privilege\u2014to take black people on as a burden, but rather to understand that we are all part of the same broken structures. He said, I can take what you\u2019re saying, but you\u2019re going to shut down everybody else in this audience. And all of a sudden I was like, What? I thought you wanted to help me! To remove him from the role of \u201cwhite savior\u201d was to attack him in his own imagination. A white woman, a professor, told me that what I was calling racism was really bias against overweight black women. You might think they were just a defensive man and a crazy professor, but again and again I was coming up against what was being framed as understanding and realizing that it was not that.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Gray, left, with his sister, Mora, in Auchterarder, Scotland, ca. 1939.<\/p><\/div>\n

And in the\u00a0Art of Fiction\u00a0No. 232, the Scottish novelist\u00a0Alasdair Gray<\/strong><\/a>, now in his eighties, speaks with Valerie Stivers <\/strong>about his landmark work\u00a0Lanark: A Life in Four Books<\/em>, published in 1981, which was thirty years in the writing and came in at nearly six hundred pages, including a false prologue, a false epilogue, footnotes, and a partially fictional \u201cindex of plagiarisms\u201d:<\/p>\n

I read a book called The English Epic and Its Background<\/em> by a Cambridge don called Tillyard. In a chapter dealing with a Portuguese epic, Tillyard mentions how the author, writing an account of Vasco da Gama\u2019s voyage to India on behalf of the expanding Portuguese commercial empire, has mixed up with it episodes which involve Neptune, Venus, and nymphs. After da Gama successfully got to India, after a stretch of immense trouble and hardship, there\u2019s a period in which the Portuguese crew are allowed an erotic indulgence with nymphs, et cetera, et cetera. Things straight out of classical Greek mythology! Tillyard was explaining that a true epic could blend all literary forms into one. It was that which decided my Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man<\/em> and my Kafkaesque afterdeath parody of our society were going to be one book instead of two.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Why wait five months to read our interviews?\u00a0Subscribe now<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong>and you\u2019ll have access to them online and in print as soon as they\u2019re published. You\u2019ll also have access to our entire digital archive: every short story, poem, and portfolio the\u00a0Review\u00a0<\/em>has published in its more-than-sixty-year history.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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